Tesla’s Cybertruck Cannot Beat A New Porsche 911 In The 1/4 Mile (Towing) Cybertruck vs F-150 Tug-of-Struggle Stunt …
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Tesla’s Cybertruck Cannot Beat A New Porsche 911 In The 1/4 Mile (Towing) Cybertruck vs F-150 Tug-of-Struggle Stunt …
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*Important Update!* I asked MotorTrend for their 1/8th mile time for the 2023 Porsche 911 Carrera T (7MT). They confirmed it at 8.0 seconds and 93.1 mph. That's FASTER than the Tesla towing a 911 did it (~8.25s), and ~0.38 seconds FASTER than the Porsche 911 alone did it in Tesla's video. This implies the 911 beats the Cybertruck (while towing) in the 1/8th, as well. So… what's up with the 911's slow time in the video?
Worth repeating – 911 T is the slowest current gen hard top 911, so it's the best one to use as reference against the video.
*Important Update 2!* Cybertruck's lead engineer, Wes Morrill, has tweeted additional information: "Love the detailed breakdown @jasonfenske13 – well done! One underlying assumption, which is what any reasonable engineer would assume: the video showed was the best run. It was not. But it was the most dramatic finish. So "why didn't we do a full 1/4mi?" The fastest 1/8mi CT hit while towing on the day was 7.808s at 88mph and the trailer tires were only rated to 80mph so we opted to call it a day before someone got hurt. Our simulations showed the full 1/4 mi race would be close but with the same net result, so no need to risk it. We also had some room to further lightweight the trailer but didn't need to. I'm glad this is so unbelievable that people care to do this analysis." https://x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551?s=20
*Edit 1:* Some folks have issue with the assumption of linear acceleration for the remaining 1/8th mile. Let's talk about it!
First off, that's a very fair thing to have issue with. My intention was not to provide an exact measurement of the 1/4 mile time, but rather to show that it is not as close to 12.3 sec as it may seem in the first half of the assessment. Hence, I used a "~" when showing the "final" quarter mile time, though I should have been more clear about this. There absolutely won't be linear acceleration, so there is some play with this number. However, let's use the Cybertruck alone as an example since we have all the numbers. 99 mph at the 1/8th, and 119 mph at the 1/4. We know it did this in 4.06 seconds. Using linear acceleration to guesstimate the time required, you would get 4.13 seconds (0.125 mi / 109 mph avg speed * 3600s/hr = 4.128 seconds). 4.06 and 4.13 are pretty close (both rounding to 4.1 seconds). Using this methodology won't give you an exact answer, it's just closer to reality than saying "it can't do it in 12.3 seconds, the end." Also, this is assuming the towing Cybertruck maintains strong acceleration above 88 mph, a challenging feat when the aerodynamic drag of both cars is going to be very significant. This little tid-bit at the end was meant as a "let's get closer to the real number" so we can confidently say it would or would not win in the 1/4 mile, because 12.2 vs 12.3 looks like it could be a toss up, whereas in reality the gap is more meaningful. Hope this info helps!
*Edit 2:* Some folks wanted to know where 24 FPS (frames per second) came from.
24 FPS is a very common speed for cinema & pro shoots in North America. You can easily download the Tesla video and check for yourself. However, for those who want to see proof, I've uploaded a video so you can see the frames counted: https://x.com/jasonfenske13/status/1746202913712836968?s=20
And I will still buy a Carrera T over many, many other cars, like any Tesla. Cause by now gear heads start to realize it's not about speed (or acceleration), it's about driving engagement.
The CT is cool too, but it's not a driver engagement type of car.
If he "only" wins the 1/8 mile that is completly sufficiant for me. And it is humiliating for Porsche drivers. And humiliating for all petrolheads,
If it’s this close and you need that much math to prove who really won what are you really proving? How freaking fast that Cybertruck is like stop it. Just accept that’s it’s faster than the 911
1–Without an uncompressed copy of the video, there's no way you have the correct number of frames. And even if you do, you're assuming that there was no editing for time and that the frame frame rate at which the footage was shot is equal to what it was both edited to and mastered to.
2–All broadcast HD video in North America is 59.97 fps, not 24 fps
That is why we should never believe extrem right wing guys like Elon or Trump. They just dont care about the truth
Not tricked, lied.
And this result be true
Great thank you. But you drew a VW. 😁
Thanks for this. Alot of math but I'd rather a headache and the truth than the usual/constant BS from Musk/Tesla (how the fanboi's accept the endless lying blows my mind), I guess thats how cults work. The acceleration stats for the cybertruck are crazy good, but why lie – Elon is a pathological liar now sadly. Their excuse for only showing the 1/8 mile instead of the 1/4 mile (where they fail) was just insultingly pathetic to the intelligence of Tesla fans (well frankly everyone) – "the trailer tyres werent rated for that speed". That makes the lying just worse. So the test was flawed by practical design from the start, in the end Tesla cant even organize a towing test properly let alone a well built cybertruck/offroad vehicle.
Just goes to show how good the elite are at gaslighting us. Backed by their elite owned MSM.
And yet, are there any other stock pickups that can run as fast?
Bro it’s an ELECTRIC pickup TRUCK that’s TOWING a CAR, and a SPORTS CAR is faster by a second? Wow so shocking
German cars are the best
Only one way to humble Tesla, I present to you… THE NORDSCHLEIFE!!!
Man , waste your time to prove musk is wrong 🤦 you compare a tank with a trailer and a " supercar" .🤦
The most impressive thing in this video is that Jason is 6'6"
Wandeeingvif the drag co efiesence of the cybe4s5uck gets better by towing the porka?
"If the engineering alone is enough for the cybertruck to deserve some hype, why muddy this achievement with a marketing stunt that's difficult to interpret?" Musk knows his audience, that's why.
WHY IS THE GARBAGE BUILD QUALITY OF TESLA BEING COMPARED TO A GERMAN ENGINEERED VEHICLE?
Heh.. So being pedantic…. @1:34 "So TWO statements" while holding up 3 fingers… lol
Math teacher
RIP Sacramento Raceway
In racing if the nose of the vehicle hits that line first it won!
Electric motors always beat gas engines!
Get a life dude. Whatever numbers you wanna draw it’s still impressive
Either way 1/8 or qtr mileage truck was faster
I still cant believe what a bold face lie from elon that this was. Dude even said porsche is the benchmark in a joe rogan interview so now hes just a narcissist trying to make people think hes a better engineer.
Man, don’t do the 911 like that. Drawing it as a Beetle and all. That’s just offensive.
I do see that the Cybertruck drawing is completely accurate, though.
Even if it was just the 1/8th. That’s still impressive
sounds a bit like copium tbh. who cares (and my family has a f3 team n i drive too). thats an insane feat regardless. youre definitely a petrolhead thru and thru and this video has the same amount of credibility as a teslarati article.
Sorry to use the greentext meme format but, it just works so perfectly here.
> Builds an entire brand on being a genius who designs the cars
> Actually tries designing a car
> It's trash
so sad that they had to use the SLOWEST model of the 911 to use for marketing
You saying 1/8 mile a lot reminded me of 8 Mile, the Eminem movie.
Elon Musk has already caught Liabetes from trump! 😂
It's also a poor comparison if one is a manual and the other is not. If the truck is an automatic, then the Porche should be also. It's also a bit of a waste of time in any case, as any of the Porches would leave the ugly truck standing and looking pretty silly even without the tow if the test went a distance worth bothering about. And Porches can stand European weather, too.
I am literally a 6'5" man who can bench over 2x my bodyweight…(like, in IRL).
STOP UNPERSONING ME!
that Porsche looks an awful lot like a VW Bug. nice vid
Elon lie? Really? For those of us who purchased FSD in 2017 will tell you hell yes. I love my Tesla but Elon not so much.
Explains why Elon and Trump understand each other so well … both are not caring about truth or integrity at all.
The fact that we are comparing a 911 v Cyber Truck is amazing why does Elon feel like he has to lie? This tells us more about what kind of person Elon Musk is than anything else.
Nice job of mathing!